"Fun" With Special Snowflakes

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/04/10/did-a-tv-host-threaten-to-sexually-torture-a-teen-not-if-you-get-hyperbole/

So, here is a “discussion” I’ve been having with some screaming meemie special snowflake over this link. Feel free to comment, or to head over to the link and tell them what you think.

therealcie

This is gross and unprofessional, it is inappropriate, but it isn't sexual. To behave as if it is tends to cheapen actual sexually inappropriate remarks.

    WMDKitty -- Survivor   therealcie • 6 hours ago
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So my abuser shoving his dick up my ass wasn't rape?

    therealcie   WMDKitty -- Survivor • 5 hours ago

How in all the known Universe did you get that from what I said? What I said was that the comment wasn't intended to be sexual. It was gross, it was inappropriate, it was assholish. But the intent wasn't sexual.
Before you get the idea in your head that I don't know what it is to be sexually assaulted, I was sexually abused by an older relative as a young child, was sexually assaulted twice as an adult, and I have realized that most of my sexual experiences were coercive. I have been sexually harassed many times in my 53 years on this planet.
I would never in the world say that what happened to you wasn't rape.
I don't really know how you read that into the comment.
I said that people need to separate assholish (and still inappropriate comments) from actual sexual harassment.
I will grant that it may be inadvertent sexual harassment, but it was not directly so.
Jeez louise.

    WMDKitty -- Survivor   therealcie • 4 hours ago

You're the one who said it "wasn't sexual".

It's a DIRECT THREAT OF RAPE WITH AN OBJECT.

    therealcie   WMDKitty -- Survivor • 2 minutes ago

No, Dearie, I said that statement wasn't directly sexual. I didn't say your rape "wasn't a rape."
That statement was made by a posturing douchebag posturing. It was not a "direct threat of rape." It was hyperbolic puffery.
I never said it wasn't inappropriate or gross. I simply said it was not intended to be sexual harassment. If someone made that statement to me, I would not see it as sexual harassment, I would see them as trying to show how "tough" they are.
People like you seem to always be looking for reasons to be GROSSLY OFFENDED!!!11!!! You remind me of the fan fiction shippers who accuse anyone of not liking their ship of "pedophilia." This cheapens the experiences of those who have actually experienced molestation. What I was saying is that assuming "sexual harassment" in every single situation where someone makes a shithead statement like this cheapens the term, and this is something that I think is a mistake.
I see no point in continuing a discussion with someone who sees everything as an attack. There were points which other people made which I thought were salient points and caused me to re-examine my position. Your screaming ZOMG U DON'T SEE MY RAPE AS A RAPE YOU MONSTER!!!!! did not do that.
I really have nothing further to say to you.

I then added this post above the other crazy train to hell:

Let me try this another way for those who choose to see everything way out of context. I think what this jackass was doing was posturing and allegorically waving his dick around. I don't think that he intended the statement to be sexual, whether or not the statement actually has sexual connotations. I think he was saying "look at what a big tough guy I am! I'm gonna show that kid what's what."

That's really all there is to it, Folks. You might disagree. Hell, you might even be right. But claiming that I don't think rape is rape because I don't think this freaking jackwagon was INTENTIONALLY sexually harassing someone is going waaaay off track from any sort of rational argument.

Crap's sake, I have freaking bipolar disorder, which tends to cause every emotion to be magnified. I tend to be hypersensitive. Even I don't take EVERYTHING completely out of context the way some of you are hell-bent on doing.

Some of you seem utterly incapable of having a rational discussion. You might have salient points, but you sure as hell are never going to sway anyone to your point of view by screaming at them and calling them monsters for not agreeing with your every little thought.

Side note: At this point, this shrieking harpy sounds like an immature teenager and smells like a troll. Either way, it's pointless to waste energy conversing with them.

The Cheese Grates It: Aim For the Right Target

 CONTENT WARNING:

Self harm

Suicide ideation

Recently, Gal Gadot expressed this sentiment regarding the death of physicist Stephen Hawking:

"Rest in peace Dr. Hawking. Now you're free of any physical constraints.. Your brilliance and wisdom will be cherished forever."

Ms. Gadot was then taken to task as if she'd said "fucken cripples shud ride the lightnin lol."

There is some lack of awareness in Ms. Gadot's comment, but she was not implying that having handicaps/disabilities/whatever the fuck you want to call it made a person lesser in any way.

I am a person with disabilities, and I was once taken to task for using the term "handicapped" to describe myself.

Could we all please just stop looking for reasons to be offended? It makes us look like "special snowflakes" and makes people less inclined to listen to the serious concerns we have. 

For an able-bodied person like Gal Gadot, the idea of being severely physically constrained is a frightening one. Although Dr. Hawking expressed acceptance of his condition, it is hard for a person without severe physical limitations to imagine that a person with such limitations might not be wishing that they could be able-bodied, that perhaps they are truly okay just as they are. 

Again, Ms. Gadot was not stating that Dr. Hawking wasn't worthwhile exactly as he was. She was expressing a wish for him to be able to move about freely, an attribute which she sees as precious. There was no malice intended in her words, and people need to back the fuck off. In our current call-out culture where a person can be viciously attacked for not expressing their thoughts in a very exacting way, it's no wonder people are afraid to speak at all.

Every person with disabilities views their particular disability (or disabilities) differently as well, and there are some disabilities that are so truly heinous that I feel it would be cruel not to wish that the person could be free of said disability--not because the person isn't worthwhile as they are, but because the disability is SO FUCKING HEINOUS. I don't believe this is a hard concept to grasp, but I will not be surprised if there are those who tell me I have "internalized ableism."

Other than a bit of a limp and a slow gait, my disabilities are invisible. I am prone to activity intolerance due to my endocrine problems. I used to be able to work strenuous physical jobs. I lost a reasonably well-paying job due to these issues, and I now live in poverty. I also have problems with urinary retention and have to use incontinence pads. I generally don't have fecal incontinence, but sometimes that happens too. It's miserable and embarrassing. I am prone to infections in my "plumbing." Most of the time I only eat one or two meals a day because I can't afford food, thanks to the fact that it's hard for me to work. 

Would I give up my physical disabilities if there were a way to repair them?

Fuck yes I would, in a heartbeat. 

This in no way means that I think people with physical disabilities don't deserve to be treated with the same respect and dignity that able-bodied people receive. Society as a whole has a problem with treating disabled people as lesser, and that needs to stop. 

People with disabilities should not be forced to live in poverty. My situation often makes me extremely depressed and, yes, suicidal. I currently have self-inflicted cuts and bruises because I am so frustrated and disgusted at my situation and at myself. When I express frustration or upset over my situation, I get told that I should "just focus on the positives," "chin up," and "try harder." All of which is bullshit and is not resolving the problem of people with disabilities being treated as if they are a burden.

This is not what Gal Gadot was doing.

I am far more offended by those who act like people with disabilities are lesser and a burden who should just sink into squalor and die than I am by someone like Gal Gadot, whose statement may have been a tad uninformed, but who was, in fact, hoping that a person who lived with physical constraints unimaginable to a young, healthy, able-bodied person would be free of those constraints. Her statement was without malice. She does not deserve to be attacked.

Save your ire for those who really deserve it: the people who make laws to take away what little those of us who can't work "normal" jobs are afforded.

~The Cheese Hath Grated It~